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« Thread Started on Nov 10, 2008, 11:34pm »

I banned MordEth


I will now file a complaint with his ISP for copyright infringement.


He has never been victimized by the socialist VOPO because of his ancestry. I have.

I also intend to file a copyright infringement complaint against his violation of reposting copyrighted material.

That, and a libel suit against him.

Mordeth is what a socialist and nazi is all about.

I never knew 'MordEth' was such an anti-semite.

And I'm not even Jewish.

He must really hate Jews given his recent internet activities and such.

Maybe I should forward his nastiness to the JDL and the Anti Defamation League, along with his IP address and email address.




I will not tolerate this crap from anyone.



Perhaps I should post the URL of the website he put up with the intent of trashing this board and showing contempt for it's members?

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« Reply #1 Yesterday at 9:04am »

Sounds like somebody has too much time on their hands... Either MordEth needs a hobby or a job.

Maybe you ARE the hobby, Dan. You've got an admirer, you hairy beast you! :-*
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« Reply #2 Yesterday at 9:45am »

One of the wonderful things about old phonographs and radios is that they help remind me of a time when positive things weren't automatically defiled by deviants like this banned idiot.
(I received the notification email and came to see what was going on; I confess).

I haven't been here in a while: MANY projects. I'm wrapping up my Son's Christmas present, a Philco 48-482. Just waiting for the speaker to get back from Bill LeGall.

He's working on his second year at Emory&Henry College while I'm selling off everything I own to pay for it. : - ).

It's a truly SUPERB feeling. 19 years old, excellent scholar, wonderful Musician, sober and LOVES my old stuff. Only listens to Classical Music for the most part, a little "Pop" stuff. Loves old Radio shows from the Jack Benny era and back. We're record collecting/ hoarding buddies.
He'll really like this old Philco.

Miracle of it is, I raised this boy in Kalifornia on a mechanic's paycheck. He had/has a Mother in the house and a Sister (17).

Anyway......I could just ramble on and on........

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« Reply #3 Yesterday at 9:53am »


Yesterday at 2:23am, Dan Gilmore wrote:
I don't have to put up with crap from anyone.



Well, I'm expecting to get a "warning level" or an IP block, but what makes you think anyone has to put up with crap from you?

It seems you can give it but can't take it.
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« Reply #4 Yesterday at 10:25am »


Dan Gilmore, a practicing fascist? Who would have noticed?
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« Reply #5 Yesterday at 11:02am »

Ye Gods, Dan, close the thread before this jerk gets any more attention. I admit, I looked to see what this was all about, and I'm sorry I did. A low point to my day, lowering my opinion of the human race. Some people have way too much time to pursue their hobby of attacking others, indeed. It was completely unnecessary for this person to post an attack about something so trivial, and on this board, no less. If someone feels the need to flame someone else, there are more appropriate venues.

Most of this garbage purportedly written by Dan isn't even related to or from this board, anyway. As long as Dan isn't molesting children, animals, or phonographs, who cares? :) The board IS very useful, appreciated, and used for its intended purpose, not as a front to spew anyone's personal views upon the masses. The end.
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« Reply #6 Yesterday at 11:17am »

Well, I'm pretty conservative (not Republican! Boy, did those guys go off the track?) and Dan sometimes is even too over the top for me. Hey, I did vote for a democrat for my house rep seat so I'm not all bad.

But I tired of the rants back and forth and stopped reading them when they turned into short stories for Lifetime TV. Usually if I want to cut down somebody I can do it in 10 words or less and sometimes a simply "Yo mama." will do.


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« Reply #7 Yesterday at 11:25am »

Well put, PGHCoyote.

This board brings us together from all points of the planet - an absolutely amazing accomplishment technologically and personally. Its a shame that many of us (myself included) introduce the two most divisive topics known to man: religion and politics. If somehow we could all choose our topics and our responses to those topics more carefully to avoid unnecessary conflicts and tension, this board will hopefully survive and even thrive. It is already the most successful and populated phono-message board around. Lets try to keep it that way. Maybe we could even coax a few of those that have drifted away over the years to return.

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« Reply #8 Yesterday at 11:35am »


Yesterday at 11:25am, MT Phono wrote:
Well put, PGHCoyote.

Maybe we could even coax a few of those that have drifted away over the years to return.



I think the only way to do that would be to get rid of the "Off Topic" sub-board altogether and keep politics out of here completely.

My $.02

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« Reply #9 Yesterday at 11:44am »


Yesterday at 9:53am, gramophoneshane wrote:

Yesterday at 2:23am, Dan Gilmore wrote:
I don't have to put up with crap from anyone.



Well, I'm expecting to get a "warning level" or an IP block, but what makes you think anyone has to put up with crap from you?

It seems you can give it but can't take it.


Shane, I can no longer remain silent. I like you and I consider you to be a valuable member of this forum. Based on some previous threads (including the one above), I have come to the conclusion that you are no longer happy with your membership here. Although I would hate to see you leave, please feel free to do so if you simply can no longer tolerate the way Dan runs things around here and you continue to be offended by his posts. This hobby is supposed to be fun, so what's the point?

With regard to Dan, he is probably one of the best message board administrators on the net. He devotes a lot of time and effort in keeping things going and dealing with individuals who want to destroy and disrupt things for whatever reason. If someone gets banned, I can assure you it is for a good reason.

Although his commentary tends to be more slanted to the right than some of you like, Dan is not a nazi, facist, or racist. He's a regular guy who collects phonographs and records and wants to give us all an opportunity to get together to discuss the same. He doen't have to go through all this work and trouble, but he does. Please respect that.

Lighten up everone! Don't take things too seriously and enjoy yourselves!!!!!
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« Reply #10 Yesterday at 12:20pm »

Well no, I'm not real happy here at the moment, but it's not about how Dan runs things around here. It's about frequent racist comments about wood stains, ex-members & his cry baby attitude when someone reacts to somethink & Dan doesn't like it. Yet Dan can say whatever the hell he wants, and everyone is expected to keep silent if they disagree.

This hobby is supposed to be fun, but the funs taken away when you read a thread about staining a phonograph & out of the blue some remark is made BY DAN about negros or a coloured guy who he banned, getting upset about it. The guy didn't get upset by the name of the stain, only by Dan's attempt at comedy pointing out the negro part of the word.
There's a radio forum I look at, and it's just as busy as here, but not once have I ever seen any racist or political comments in any thread, and certainly never by an administrator.
If any such post was ever made, it was removed straight away, and would NEVER be encouraged or instigated by an administrator.

Frankly, I don't care whats posted in thread hell- if you don't like the subject matter you simply don't go there, but it's a different thing to come across this sort of crap in phono threads. They're supposed to be about the hobby, not african-americans, indians & chinese.
I mean it's one thing to joke about crapophones, but it's no longer a joke if I start talking about beedy eyed little indians in sweat shops making them.
If I started making a wise crack every now & then about Masons, I'm sure it would eventually get on your nerves Phil, and probably eventually you would avoid this board because that stupid Shane guy keeps making ridiculous comments about freemasons .
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« Reply #11 Yesterday at 1:02pm »

I fully agree with Orthomaniac. This forum is meant to discuss vintage music and vintage recording and/or playback equipment, not politics. All too often those discussions end in fights and different forum members start calling eachother bigots, Marxists, and so on. So I also think the best solution is to close the off-topic section. If someone feels the need to talk politics, they should go to the politics message board.
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« Reply #12 Yesterday at 1:24pm »

I agree, we should keep the crap off the sections where it doesn't belong. However I don't mind if the off topic section is kept for those who want to vent. I can easily avoid it if I want to.

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Yesterday at 1:24pm, phonojim wrote:
I agree, we should keep the crap off the sections where it doesn't belong. However I don't mind if the off topic section is kept for those who want to vent. I can easily avoid it if I want to.

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(glad y'all liked that one ;D )
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« Reply #14 Yesterday at 1:50pm »

LOL! Now THAT'S funny, Don! ;D
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« Reply #15 Yesterday at 4:07pm »

And Don is right, we can't help looking! :) And I can't help looking myself!

If it wasn't there, though, we wouldn't look. ???

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« Reply #16 Yesterday at 4:13pm »

It's beginning to sound like the board when I tried posting to it a few years back.

Please just stop.
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« Reply #17 Yesterday at 5:41pm »


Nov 10, 2008, 11:34pm, Dan Gilmore wrote:

......................Mordeth is what a socialist and nazi is all about.

I never knew 'MordEth' was such an anti-semite.

And I'm not even Jewish.

He must really hate Jews given his recent internet activities and such.

Maybe I should forward his nastiness to the JDL and the Anti Defamation League, along with his IP address and email address.

.................................

Perhaps I should post the URL of the website he put up with the intent of trashing this board and showing contempt for it's members?




Gentlemen,

I am very disappointed that not one of you seem to have any trouble with Dan insulting and libeling Mordeth by calling him an anti-semite. I would remind you all that it takes two to have an argument.

Analogman-What exactly was "defiled"? Dan's political opinion that's all. Pghcoyote please note that Dan is the one who has affixed this thread to the top of the board so it's seen by everyone. I agree with you it shouldn't even exist. Mordeth didn't attack something trivial he tried to discuss the politics that Dan initially posted. The links to the threads are not "purportedly" written by Dan-everything there is word for word what Dan wrote so don't delude yourself into thinking this is made up it isn't.

Dan, I had wanted to keep this private between us, but I can not let your public threats and insults to him stand. I have know Mordeth in the real world for a number of years he is no anti-semite nor is he a socialist or anything else of that nature.

Dan was the one who started the political discussion and when Mordeth got the best of him it got nasty on both sides. I've spoken to both privately. They both crossed a line.

Mordeth wasn't a "lurker" I would remind Dan that Mordeth joined this board after I put you two together so he could assist you in setting up the first chat when you were stuck. Remember that?

I am really tired of these regular dust ups. (Note I don't have a problem with engaging in "warm" discussion, as can be seen by my discussion with Kalash on Stalin &c.) The tone of this board is set from the top. These flame wars are always allowed to go to far.

Everyone please note that Mordeth has not posted nor has he attempted to post anything here. And trust me-he could if he chose to in spite of anything Dan might claim. He isn't trying to disrupt anything. I have asked him to refrain from posting here and he agrees with me that nothing good can come from his posting anything further here. Strangely someone attempted to sign him up for a google group dedicated to the Communist Party last night. Odd, isn't it? Especially in light of Dan's mass mailing. Mordeth has no and never had any intention of SPAMMING or e-mailing anyone here-trust me.

I initially said Thread Hell was a bad idea when it was started and I still feel that way. It has done nothing to quell bad blood here-in fact I think it's exacerbated the problem.

Dan what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander-remove your insults to Mordeth if you are serious about this board.

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« Reply #18 Yesterday at 7:38pm »

Funny, MordEth can call me a "Nazi" or a "Fascist" and that seems to be just fine. Well, sunshine, it isn't fine with me. Not when he puts up an entire website to trash me and this board.

And that's why his account is deleted and why he got banned.


Yesterday at 9:53am, gramophoneshane wrote:

Yesterday at 2:23am, Dan Gilmore wrote:
I don't have to put up with crap from anyone.



Well, I'm expecting to get a "warning level" or an IP block, but what makes you think anyone has to put up with crap from you?

It seems you can give it but can't take it.


Let me set straight those of you who don't quite get it. Maybe this will clear things up for you.

I am the Administrator of this board. I own it, pure and simple. As such, I have the right and authority to exercise any and all editorial powers I deem necessary. If someone doesn't like The Wall Street Journal they can go our and buy The New York Times if they don't like the editorial policies of one or the other.

I put up an off-topic section because we needed it to move off-topic material to prevent clutter by cleaning up the thread rather than to immediately delete it.

Now, see it from my point. I get bitched at for not exercising censorship and being too lax. Then I get bitched at for exercising some form of editorial censorship. I remove off topic material at the request of a number of board members (for good reason) and on a periodic basis and what do I get called? A Nazi, Fascist, etc.,,,.

Well, folks, you can't have it both ways and MorDeth and bostonmike1 didn't realize that simple little fact of life.

You see, it's damned if I do and damned if I don't. I get abuse for using my admin powers and I get abuse for not using it.

That means that I have only one choice and that is to exercise my editorial policy and admin powers without fail and at every opportunity that I or any of the Global Moderators deem necessary.

There will be no more disorder or conflict.

If I see something that I think is inappropriate, disruptive, mean spirited, slanderous, libelous or beyond the limits of good taste and orderly conduct, I will delete it, edit it or move it without discussion and without appeal. The Global Moderators are also entitled to make the same editorial decisions.

We can't have it both ways. Since we have had a number of 'lurkers' who only post when they can make a troll of themselves and number of people who are oversensitive who get offended at the mention of a flea, star or any imaginable thing that could be taken the wrong way, I'm going to enforce editorial scrutiny to everything equally.

Let's see how total control over everything works for a while.

Dan
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Yesterday at 7:38pm, Dan Gilmore wrote:

I am the Administrator of this board. I own it, pure and simple. As such, I have the right and authority to exercise any and all editorial powers I deem necessary.


Amen!

I have been a member of this board from the beginning. While I don't necessarily agree with everything Dan says -- hell, I don't always agree with what I say -- I fully support Dan's authority as Owner/Administrator.

Thank you, Dan for continuing to administer this board! :)
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