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Re: Obama's "National Police Force" is on the way. « Reply #1 on 3 Nov, 2008, 9:33pm »
I'm not sure I quite understand the reasoning behind this video. Isn't he talking about "national security" & not "controlling the populace of America"? Am I right in thinking these are two completely different things
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Re: Obama's "National Police Force" is on the way. « Reply #2 on 3 Nov, 2008, 10:04pm »
Obama is talking about using a 'national police force' to supplant
local police. IOW, using military power (the army, etc.) to 'enforce'
law in violation of the the constitutional prohibition against the use
of the military against the people (posse commitus).
What Obama is suggesting is tantamount to the Gestapo and the KGB - the application of military force to enforce civil law.
If you were afraid of George Bush, you will love Herr Obama.
We
have a provision(s) against the use of the military against the people
in the US Constitution but obviously this doesn't concern Adolf Obama.
He will use the 'Fairness Doctrine" to silence the mass media so that
no one knows or hears about what he uses the military to do to suppress
dissent. Oh, and he wants to set up a 'National Service Corps' that can
'draft' people to build public works like you draft people to serve in
the military. Heil Obama, the 'chosen one'.
Be afraid, be very afraid. I had Obama pegged wrong - he's not a marxist. He's a Nazi.
Obama
is talking about using a 'national police force' to supplant local
police. IOW, using military power (the army, etc.) to 'enforce' law in
violation of the the constitutional prohibition against the use of the
military against the people (posse commitus).
What Obama is suggesting is tantamount to the Gestapo and the KGB - the application of military force to enforce civil law.
If you were afraid of George Bush, you will love Herr Obama.
We
have a provision(s) against the use of the military against the people
in the US Constitution but obviously this doesn't concern Adolf Obama.
He will use the 'Fairness Doctrine" to silence the mass media so that
no one knows or hears about what he uses the military to do to suppress
dissent. Oh, and he wants to set up a 'National Service Corps' that can
'draft' people to build public works like you draft people to serve in
the military. Heil Obama, the 'chosen one'.
Be afraid, be very afraid. I had Obama pegged wrong - he's not a marxist. He's a Nazi.
Lie much Dan?
No,
he was not talking about a national police force. Unless you think
Peace Corps, Americorp and teachers are a nantional police force. He
was giving a speech about service to the nation (it was a in a Colorado
Springs speech, on July 2, 2008). There was not a single word about a
national police force in his entire speech, or the use of any force to
supplant, augment, or even support any local police authority. It was
about community service and giving back to the country.
It's
very sad that people on the right feel compelled to take a pair of
sentances completely out of context, and then fabricate a complete lie
to try to scare people to vote their way. But I suppose when you've
completely failed on the issues all you have left is fear and lies.
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Re: Obama's "National Police Force" is on the way. « Reply #4 on 4 Nov, 2008, 7:01pm »
Uh, you didn't hear what Obama said -
he said A "NATIONAL SECURITY FORCE". This is exactly what Castro did in
Cuba, what Hitler did in Germany, what Stalin did in the Soviet Union,
what Franco did in Spain.
You
seem to be a reasonably intelligent person, so I find it hard to
believe that you don't think Obama intends to do exactly what he says
he is going to do. Are you that blind?
Oh, well, they refused to
see it coming in the Weimar Republic. If he wins, you won't be exempt
from his redistribution of wealth or anything else a one-party system
will produce. Mark my words.
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Re: Obama's "National Police Force" is on the way. « Reply #6 on 5 Nov, 2008, 4:40am »
LOL!
Yeah and pretty damn fast
whilst you're at it - it's now confirmed that he's coming to get you,
Dan, for all the stuff you've been peddling about him for weeks!
Obama:
"Now as my first National Police Force, we need to implement change
quickly and get our priorities straight here. Your first task is to
remove all those known threats to my masterplan - anyone seen or heard
making comparisons with Hitler, Marx or Franco is to be removed without
a trace. No questions, just do it!"
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject" - Winston Churchill
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Re: Obama's "National Police Force" is on the way. « Reply #7 on 5 Nov, 2008, 5:56am »
And the irony is that very few people have any idea what we're all in
for. The refused to see what Hitler, Lenin, Mussolini and Franco were
all about. You all wanted change, no you're going to get it.
At
least I'll have the satisfaction of seeing your reaction when you find
out exactly what that 'change' will be. So, in a few months or a year
when you realize that I was right, don't complain.
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Re: Obama's "National Police Force" is on the way. « Reply #8 on 5 Nov, 2008, 6:17am »
My guess is that "change" will equal NO CHANGE!
It's
easy to talk when you're a prospective candidate and how you're going
to change this, that and the other for the better. It's another thing
altogether actually being able to deliver on that promise.
How many Presidents have succeeded in delivering exactly what they promised?
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Re: Obama's "National Police Force" is on the way. « Reply #9 on 5 Nov, 2008, 8:16am »
I think you'll see change, but it will take a year or two to straighten
out the mess he's been left with, and to see any positive effects from
those changes. Hopefully the first change will be pulling the troops
out & getting them back home to their loved ones.
It's
easy to talk when your a prospective candidate and how you're going to
change this, that and the other for the better. It's another thing
altogether actually being able to deliver on that promise.
How many Presidents have succeeded in delivering exactly what they promised?
very
Few. First you need money to make your promises a reality.... the
Problem With this is that the new president will be stuck with teh mess
Created by the previous... Wether or not he is responsible for the
mess,. he will be blamed and associated with it.
How Nasty Politics are huh
I'm So glad i didn't run!
And
George W still has about 70 days to muck about and Rubber stamp as much
as he wants. leaving the next president to either take the next 5 years
of HIS office term To undo any of those
Gimbert:
Oh I'm not a happy man Lovejoy; I'm not well liked, I drink far too
much when the Doctor says I shouldn't, I have a Sister with green hair
who slags it off with every stud in the Parish as you can well
testify....
No, I need you Lovejoy. Since my Wife died I... I need Someone to hate... ......Pull!
And
the irony is that very few people have any idea what we're all in for.
The [sic] refused to see what Hitler, Lenin, Mussolini and Franco were
all about. You all wanted change, no [sic] you're going to get it.
At
least I'll have the satisfaction of seeing your reaction when you find
out exactly what that 'change' will be. So, in a few months or a year
when you realize that I was right, don't complain.
Ironically,
Dan, you’ve been consistently wrong in your predictions on this board.
While it may not be a direct quote, you “guaranteed us” that McCain
would win (and conveniently deleted those threads, perhaps so you could
not be cited for how wrong you were). Honestly, The Dan Gilmore Times has flip-flopped more than Kerry was accused of having done, with your talking points.
First the polls were right when they supported your arguments, then
they were wrong when they proved you wrong, then they didn’t matter.
And yet, the election went almost exactly as predicted by the polls.
(Whatever happened to the Bradley Effect that would magically save McCain’s doomed campaign, that you so strongly advocated?)
(*
Yes, I realize that military bases on foreign soil count as part of
America with regards to citizenship by birth. I just find it amusingly
ridiculous some of the lies that were considered to be valid arguments
against Obama by McCain supporters.)
Edit: Removed Benito Gilmore’s fascist threat of censorship. Since he couldn’t manage to put it in its own post as a response, I did it for him, along with my reply.
Uh,
you didn't hear what Obama said - he said A "NATIONAL SECURITY FORCE".
This is exactly what Castro did in Cuba, what Hitler did in Germany,
what Stalin did in the Soviet Union, what Franco did in Spain.
You
seem to be a reasonably intelligent person, so I find it hard to
believe that you don't think Obama intends to do exactly what he says
he is going to do. Are you that blind?
Oh, well, they refused to
see it coming in the Weimar Republic. If he wins, you won't be exempt
from his redistribution of wealth or anything else a one-party system
will produce. Mark my words.
I
heard exactly what he said. But I had the intellectual honesty to
listen to the full speech, not just a two sentance clip of it. His
speech made it quite clear what he was referring to. Our security
doesn't only come at the end of a gun. His "national security force"
was referring to the Peace Corps, AmericiCorps, etc., that improve our
secuirity by strenthening us internally, and improves the perception of
our country abroad. His whole speech was about volunteerism and giving
back to the country.
But feel free to take two sentances out
of a 10 minute speech and twist it to try to scare people. Worked well
for you last night in getting that "McGovern-esque" spanking you
promised....Oh wait, that's right, you were wrong about that too....oh,
and the polls actually were pretty close to the end result too? I
suppose I should mark your words since they've been such an accurate
predictor of things to come.
I
heard exactly what he said. But I had the intellectual honesty to
listen to the full speech, not just a two sentance clip of it. His
speech made it quite clear what he was referring to. Our security
doesn't only come at the end of a gun. His "national security force"
was referring to the Peace Corps, AmericiCorps, etc., that improve our
secuirity by strenthening us internally, and improves the perception of
our country abroad. His whole speech was about volunteerism and giving
back to the country.
But feel free to take two sentances out
of a 10 minute speech and twist it to try to scare people. Worked well
for you last night in getting that "McGovern-esque" spanking you
promised....Oh wait, that's right, you were wrong about that too....oh,
and the polls actually were pretty close to the end result too? I
suppose I should mark your words since they've been such an accurate
predictor of things to come.
Zeppy,
that's exactly what I was thinking, and it was a common tactic by the
Republican party during this election. However, enough American voters
had the sense to fact-check the smears, and we’ve all seen the results.
Based on the predictions posted here, though, The Dan Gilmore Times
definitely has its finger on the pulse of this great American nation.
Or at least, perhaps the part of it that the Republican party believes
is the ignorant and bigoted “real” America.
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Re: Obama's "National Police Force" is on the way. « Reply #14 on 5 Nov, 2008, 11:30am »
Where is Dan anyway? No comment from him? Come on Dan come out of
hiding and speak to us. You are still our fearless leader for this
message board and we want to hear from you!!!!
Where
is Dan anyway? No comment from him? Come on Dan come out of hiding and
speak to us. You are still our fearless leader for this message board
and we want to hear from you!!!!
I understand a gun shot was heard from his home at 11:18 pm yesterday when McCain gave his concession speech.
Where
is Dan anyway? No comment from him? Come on Dan come out of hiding and
speak to us. You are still our fearless leader for this message board
and we want to hear from you!!!!
I understand a gun shot was heard from his home at 11:18 pm yesterday when McCain gave his concession speech.
Shan
^::^
That was just Dan pulling an Elvis and taking out his TV.
If
he wins, you won't be exempt from his redistribution of wealth or
anything else a one-party system will produce. Mark my words.
I
will approach the new administration and ask to be put in charge of the
redistribution of the Edison DD and cylinder wealth. I will
redistribute all the moldy cylinders and damaged DDs and keep the good
ones for myself.
It's
easy to talk when you're a prospective candidate and how you're going
to change this, that and the other for the better. It's another thing
altogether actually being able to deliver on that promise.
How many Presidents have succeeded in delivering exactly what they promised?
Funny you should say that.
Obama
will quickly find out that he cannot satisfy nor deliver everything he
promised to both ends of the Chicken in Every Pot spectrum. What did
Abe Lincoln say? "If you try to please everyone your will end up
pleasing no one?"
Or was it, "You can fool some of the people some of the time......"
The
irony is that Obamy Wan Knobi said that he isn't going to change a
thing from Bush's foreign policy. That must kill all the Hate America
First leftists out there.
Now, I'm going to let slip a little
bit of information I was told today by a little birdie - and remember,
you heard it here first...
Obama asked General David Petraeus to be his Secretary of State.
I suspect that David Petraeus will either accept that position or 'resign' when Obama becomes President.
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