Daniel Blythe Gilmore, Internet Bully
24 Days of threats and fabricated accusations! Now with name
changes!
...and faster hosting!
2008/12/02 @ 22:30: Welcome to the new home at phonofascist.com; thanks
to all the traffic Dan was providing, it was about time this was on a
server with more bandwidth and a faster connection.
Expect an update on Dan’s illiteracy, as apparently he has never heard of
books and cannot figure
out Google, wishing instead to make up all sorts of libelous
explanations for my username, since he is unaware of the correct literary one.
Obviously, posting an endless litany of hate and harassment on the
internet leaves Dan little time to manage to read something other than
Fox News.
Breaking news (2008/12/02 @ 01:30 EST): Dan has
now changed his name to Gillmor, apparently in an attempt to pretend
that the Dan Gilmore that I have quoted is not him. But he seems to
forget about Google’s
cache, any backups that ProBoards keeps, et cetera.
Below is the new Dan Gilmore Gillmor profile:
Note that the image above is linked to a larger version showing
his full profile, in case he edits it again. Because, obviously,
if he edits content after I make statements in response to the current
content, then they were never true, because Victrolaland
was always at war with MordEthland. War is Peace. Freedom is slavery.
Because if you go back and change things, they were always the way they
were after you changed them; erasing the past and painting it anew
makes it so.
And I could be wrong, since I do not follow Dan’s board for
phonograph-related discussion pulpit of hate and racism closely
enough to pin down the time, but I have the feeling it preceeded
further whining and threats to my ISP at either 11:58, 13:28, 13:53 or
15:21 on 1 December, 2008, since these are the times that the server
logging shows that abuse*.speakeasy.net [edited to prevent IP lookup]
viewed this site.
But of course, I made this all up, if you believe his claims. I am
stalking him from hundreds of miles away without leaving my apartment,
and hacking him while putting together phonographs for a friend of mine
(with that friend watching me the entire time, which I believe would
provide a very solid alibi, as I doubt that I could create “about 100
accounts from the same IP address” and post “multiple links to TOS
violating material all over the frigging board in an attempt to bring
down this board” without having someone notice, especially if they are
watching me assemble video footage for them, on a laptop placed in full
view from their seat next to me.
If Dan’s last name is really ‘Gillmor’, why is he using gilmoredan
as his Yahoo! IM and e-mail? Wouldn’t he be able to spell
his own last name?
At least he’s finally admitting that he’s a fascist, and not the
Champion of Democracy that he claims to be.
Since Dan alleges that the
posts made at gibe.com are not him, I am editing this page to remove
the quotes attributed from that source. However, since his words on the
board of which he is the owner and admin make my point quite clearly, it
is not as if I really need to cite the secondary source.
If indeed the Daniel Blythe Gilmore of [city
purposefully omitted] North Carolina posting at gibe.com is
not the Daniel Blythe Gilmore of [city purposefully omitted]
North Carolina who runs the Old Time Victrola Fascist Message Board, then
I apologize for any negative attention that Dan has allegedly
received as a result of this. However, I find it amazingly
unlikely that there are 2 separate individuals with the same name and
place of residence who have posted the exact same YouTube clip on the
same day (within 3 hours of each post) with the exact same
rhetoric. Even if the Dan Gilmore on gibe is pretending to be Dan the
Benevolent Dictator-for-Life of Victrolaland, well, riddle me this,
Batman...how did the pretend Dan Gilmore post the video
first?
(Exhibit A: the
first post, on Gibe, at 4:00 PM on 11/03/2008; Exhibit B: the second post
as saved from the OTVMMB, at 6:56 PM on 11/03/2008.
[Correction: Exhibit B
was originally linked to the wrong thread. My apologies.] Both posts
present this
video on YouTube.)
Is Dan Gilmore now impersonating Dan Gilmore-the-Impersonator?
Surprisingly, however, despite all of Dan’s ridiculous claims, I am supposedly
the one stalking him and hacking
him, despite making no effort to attack him beyond chronicling his
actions as saved (unedited) from Firefox. But he won’t publicly say
that I am actually doing the actions he alleges, because I think he is
intelligent enough to realize that this is libel. More on this
later.
While he has blustered about using the DMCA to take me
down, it is merely that, bluster. My internet service provider
has no more responsibility for the content that I post than yours has for
you. If you do something, you’re responsible. But hey, it’s not a lot
of paranoid delusions if everyone is really out to get him, right? One
must start to wonder: does Dan have multiple personality disorder?
It seems his latest tactic is threatening action by the FBI and lawsuits
against my internet service provider, which, were Dan conversant with the
law (which we know he is not, based on his exchange with Garret), Dan
would be aware of the exemption from direct and indirect liability of
internet service providers and other intermediaries, which precludes him
from taking action against anyone other than me. As always, I can be e-mailed at mordeth@bitbucket.be,
and Dan has this e-mail address, but has made zero effort to request the
removal of any content on any basis, legal or illegal. Instead, he
continues to bluster and libel me to a
personal friend who lives 3 doors down the street
from me and uninvolved third parties.
He also conveniently forgets that I first made an account on the Victrola
board (in October, 2007) when he was having problems setting up an IRC channel for
the denizens of the Union of Soviet Shellac Republics. You can read the messages from Dan in regards to that
and see for yourself. I also told him exactly how to fix
his ‘invisible link color’, back when the viewed link color was
exactly the same as the darker table bar on which it appeared.
Someone may also wish to point out and explain to Dan that I have made
absolutely no threats against him. On the other hand, he has made quite
a few threats against me personally at this point, and should I want to
invest the time and effort into it, while his arguments about how I am
libeling him are false and baseless, I do have a perfectly legitimate
basis to sue him for both his threatening behavior and the libel he has
printed against me. So far he has wantonly accused me of both stalking
(which is impressive, since unless Dan has travelled towards my home, I
have always been in excess of 900 miles from him) and hacking (despite a
complete lack of evidence to support these claims, as if I have ‘hacked’
his board, it has been through the Zen art of inaction). It would be
quite impressive if one could hack someone by not hacking them.
If I have done these things, Dan, then let’s see some evidence. I have
logs; as Mr. Gilmore descends further into irrational, delusional behavior
I have made a point of saving everything that I have seen posted and
said, and his threats regarding me to a personal friend whom he has
repeatedly attempted to sway to his side against me have been logged.
Web servers such as Apache are very thorough in their logging, but I
suppose that Dan is not aware of this, having probably only used free
hosting solutions such as Angelfire, which
do not provide access to their logs. Having admin access to two
ProBoards sites, I am well aware of what ProBoards offers as far as admin
features, and it is obvious that Dan’s hacking claims are bogus and
fictional. First of all, he claimed that on the demands of law
enforcement, he unbanned my IP from being able to access the board. Yet,
as you can see below, I am still banned:
So Dan, am I making this up? Since you started this argument with me,
I have had a body of corroborating evidence supporting each statement
that I have made, while you have not put forth any evidence. Here is
a sample of your traffic on this site, edited slightly to protect your
IP address:
71.28.71.x - - [10/Nov/2008:23:00:43 -0500] "GET /images/buttons/admin.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 1060
71.28.71.x - - [10/Nov/2008:23:00:43 -0500] "GET /images/admin_tasks/modify_member_group-1.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 27065
71.28.71.x - - [10/Nov/2008:23:00:43 -0500] "GET /images/admin_tasks/administration_area.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 82544
71.28.71.x - - [10/Nov/2008:23:00:43 -0500] "GET /images/admin_tasks/modify_member_group-2.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 74531
71.28.71.x - - [10/Nov/2008:23:00:43 -0500] "GET /images/admin_tasks/modify_member_group-3.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 109459
71.28.71.x - - [10/Nov/2008:23:31:57 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 3057
71.28.71.x - - [10/Nov/2008:23:31:57 -0500] "GET /includes/css/main.css HTTP/1.1" 200 734
71.28.71.x - - [10/Nov/2008:23:31:57 -0500] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 336
71.28.71.x - - [10/Nov/2008:23:32:00 -0500] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 336
[snip]
71.28.71.x - - [11/Nov/2008:00:27:52 -0500] "GET /files/f_gen065m_fe4528f.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 566192
71.30.103.x - - [11/Nov/2008:07:16:21 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 7794
71.30.103.x - - [11/Nov/2008:07:16:21 -0500] "GET /includes/css/main.css HTTP/1.1" 200 806
71.30.103.x - - [11/Nov/2008:07:16:22 -0500] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 200 8606
71.30.103.x - - [11/Nov/2008:07:17:07 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 304 -
[snip]
71.30.103.x - - [11/Nov/2008:07:26:14 -0500] "GET /files/modify_member_group-3.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 109459
67.141.247.x - - [23/Nov/2008:21:27:10 -0500] "GET /includes/css/main.css HTTP/1.1" 200 1041
67.141.247.x - - [23/Nov/2008:21:27:10 -0500] "GET /images/buttons/delete.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 1107
67.141.247.x - - [23/Nov/2008:21:27:09 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 34199
67.141.247.x - - [23/Nov/2008:21:27:11 -0500] "GET /images/logos/valid_xhtml.png HTTP/1.1" 200 1882
67.141.247.x - - [23/Nov/2008:21:27:11 -0500] "GET /images/logos/valid_css.png HTTP/1.1" 200 4597
67.141.247.x - - [23/Nov/2008:21:27:12 -0500] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 200 8606
67.141.247.x - - [23/Nov/2008:23:10:42 -0500] "GET /includes/css/main.css HTTP/1.1" 200 1041
67.141.247.x - - [23/Nov/2008:23:10:42 -0500] "GET /images/buttons/delete.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 1107
67.141.247.x - - [23/Nov/2008:23:10:42 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 34199
67.141.247.x - - [23/Nov/2008:23:10:43 -0500] "GET /images/logos/valid_xhtml.png HTTP/1.1" 200 1882
67.141.247.x - - [23/Nov/2008:23:10:43 -0500] "GET /images/logos/valid_css.png HTTP/1.1" 200 4597
67.141.247.x - - [23/Nov/2008:23:10:43 -0500] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 200 8606
67.141.247.x - - [23/Nov/2008:23:43:59 -0500] "GET /images/buttons/delete.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 1107
67.141.247.x - - [23/Nov/2008:23:43:59 -0500] "GET /includes/css/main.css HTTP/1.1" 200 1041
67.141.247.x - - [23/Nov/2008:23:43:59 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 34199
67.141.247.x - - [23/Nov/2008:23:44:00 -0500] "GET /images/logos/valid_xhtml.png HTTP/1.1" 200 1882
67.141.247.x - - [23/Nov/2008:23:44:00 -0500] "GET /images/logos/valid_css.png HTTP/1.1" 200 4597
67.141.247.x - - [23/Nov/2008:23:44:00 -0500] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 200 8606
67.141.247.x - - [24/Nov/2008:00:58:02 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 304 -
67.141.247.x - - [24/Nov/2008:00:58:02 -0500] "GET /includes/css/main.css HTTP/1.1" 304 -
67.141.247.x - - [24/Nov/2008:00:58:02 -0500] "GET /images/buttons/delete.gif HTTP/1.1" 304 -
67.141.247.x - - [24/Nov/2008:00:58:02 -0500] "GET /images/logos/valid_xhtml.png HTTP/1.1" 304 -
67.141.247.x - - [24/Nov/2008:00:58:02 -0500] "GET /images/logos/valid_css.png HTTP/1.1" 304 -
A more comprehensive text file (current as of 08:30 EST, 11/26/2008) can
be viewed here.
It is obvious that these accesses were Dan; the first 5 accesses listed
above were the only traffic on these images (as linked from the OTVMMB)
before the post from which they were linked was deleted, and my account
was banned and my IP blocked. However, since I saved the thread, you can
read it here.
Knowing from this that Dan’s internet service provider is Windstream
Communications Inc. out of Charlotte, NC, it is easy to pull out any
other access made by Dan like so:
cat access.log | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq | while read IP; do nslookup $IP; done | grep windstream
What this does is output the contents of the access.log file using the
cat (concatenate)
command, then route its output (via "|") to awk which cuts
everything except the first field ("print $1"), which contains the IP
address. This is then passed through sort, which lists
the IP addresses in order numerically, and gets passed through uniq which reduces
the list to only unique entries. The results of this are then piped
through ‘while read IP’, which goes line by line and pushes the IP
address into a variable named ‘$IP’. ‘While’ is a built-in shell command that
creates a loop, repeating any commands between ‘do’ and ‘done’ for each
iteration of the loop. This means that it performs an nslookup on each
and every IP address that has accessed the page as logged in access.log.
These results are then passed through grep which only
returns values that match the search string ‘windstream’ (Dan’s ISP).
Because of tools like this, operating systems such as Linux and UNIX (from which Mac OS X was derived)
come with very powerful tools for processing information pre-built into
them. This is one of the reasons why Windows is an inferior operating
system; the commands provided in other operating systems are vastly
superior.
Again, you can see the results of this (current as of 08:30 EST,
11/26/2008) here, with the last segment of
Dan’s IP removed for his protection.
For those of you who are not familiar with the Apache web
server’s method of logging access, these entries show the IP from
which a connection originated, the date and time (with time zone offset)
that the connection was made, the method of connection (e.g. POST or
GET), what was requested ("/" is the page that you are viewing right
now), the protocol with which it was transferred (HTTP 1.1), the status
code for the transaction (e.g. 200 denotes a successful transfer,
304 indicates that the file was not modified since the last time it was
viewed, and is still cached on the computer viewing the page) and the
size of the file in bytes.
(You are welcome to e-mail me
if you have any questions.)
Now here’s Dan on his own board
The following documents are unaltered page-saves created by Firefox, and
have not been edited in any way. This means that a number of the links in
the pages may be broken, and perhaps at some point I will put in a bit of
effort and fix it. For now, just remember that if you are reading a thread
that is more than one page, hit the back arrow in your browser to return to
this page, and then proceed to the next page in the thread.
If Dan would like to dispute the content of these pages, he is welcome to
restore the threads from the ‘Hidden Archive’ in which he shoved them, and
offer to let you compare the text here vs. the text there. I have not
changed a single word.
As long as I remain warned and the threads remain gone from the board, I
cite this as incontrovertable proof that Dan Gilmore is a bigoted, racist
fascist, and that his unending litany of hate stems from this. He has
demonstrated by his actions that this is true, and as long as he continues
to behave in this manner, this page will be available for all to see.
Without further ado, here are the contents:
Update #1: 1 IP and the MordEth account
banned
This evening Dan opted to demonstrate his fascist beliefs when his lies
and overstatements are questioned. Since he was stying himself as a
‘coder’ for being able to click through a web form (which I imagine
everyone reading this is capable of doing, I felt obligated to deflate
his disturbingly enlarged ego. The post was deleted and I was
subsequently banned, but not before I captured it for your review here,
in page 2. (I have included page 1 for completeness, even though I have
no posts in it.) Enjoy.
So there you have it; incontrovertable proof that if you disagree with
Dan Gilmore, and demonstrate just how he is a lying, bigoted, racist and
fascist man, in direct contradiction to his supposedly ‘American’
Republican values, the façade slips away and you see the monster beneath
the masque.
Since he can’t ban me completely without preventing new membership on
the board, look forward to future posts as Dan’s fascism emerges
again.
Update #2: Dan continues to demonstrate
childish behavior
Since Dan decided to submit my e-mail to the Google Group for Commnuist
Party News & Views, he’s continuing to confirm my opinion of him. Of
course, unlike Benito Gilmore, I understand how the internet works, and
his ISP, rather than
just a single IP address, has been blocked from
this server, since I would not put it past him to try a DDoS attack, if he
knew how. If anyone wonders how you do this type of block, behold the
wonder of CIDR:
71.28.64.0/20
That would be the whole range of 71.28.64.0 - 71.28.79.255, owned by
Windstream Communications in
Charlotte, NC (specifically their DSL pool).
I can now add spammer to the list of his unsavory actions.
Update #3: Dan proves his Internet
cluelessness/additional hate speech
Now Dan seems to believe that he had this page removed from the
internet because I blocked his access to it. Look forward to
another update after I manage to get some sleep with a before and after
showing his cluelessness, and more of his hate speech.
I’d also like to thank Dan for pushing this site (which is one day old
as of 11 November @ approximately 03:45 EST to the 4th result in a Google
search for Dan
Gilmore Charlotte NC. Perhaps if enough people see the bigotry and
hate, and the lies behind each personal boast (like his [fictional] coding
skills), he won’t continue to get away with it.
Stop believing the lies!
Update #4: Dan says, “I can do what it’s wrong
for you to do”
Let’s cover some of Dan’s quotes from this evening, and I’ll close with
a couple of points to shoot down all of Dan’s pseudo-high-minded lies.
To quote Comrade Gilmore:
Funny, MordEth can call me a “Nazi” or a “Fascist” and that
seems to be just fine. Well, sunshine, it isn't fine with me. Not when he
puts up an entire website to trash me and this board.
Isn’t it ironic that Dan considers the entire Victrola board
his pulpit to do the same thing of which he is currently accusing me?
The thread linking to this page is stickied under ‘Phonographs! ::
Antique Phonograph Message Board’. Not in an off-topic section (which I
hear is now hidden from 90% of the members, so who knows what insane
racist and bigoted ranting is going on in there now), but in the main
board. Since I was deleted and banned, I have not attempted to make
another account although it would require little effort for me to do
so.
Putting up a website is trivial. It took me less than 5 minutes of work
to have this site online. Of course, some of us are actual professional
programmers and web designers (and I know, this is hardly anything
impressive for web design; it’s just basic XHTML 1.0
Strict and CSS. I wrote it all by hand
in exactly the same amount of time it would take me to write posts of a
similar length on the board.
Writing a web page is not ‘coding’ as Dan makes it out to be, as HTML is a
document format, and not a programming
language. It is not a program, any more than a Word document
is a program; without a browser to display it, it cannot be executed.
However, some of us (e.g. not Dan) write in languages like PHP, which are actually
executed on the server to generate the HTML displayed by your
browser. Of course, as long as you’re willing to believe that being able to click
through web forms is ‘coding’, then Dan is an über-l33t programmer,
and so is anyone who can shop online, e.g. with eBay, etc.
Using ProBoards doesn’t even require that you need know HTML; just ask Neophone if
you do not believe me; he’s set up two boards now, and as far as I know,
he does not know a single HTML tag.
Perhaps some of you are willing to believe the lies that Dan spouts, and
let his hatred and bigotry slide, out of how “he’s doing so much for me.”
If you really feel that way, I hope you remember that while you may be in
good standing with the Party today, if you do not stand up to protest the
fascist behavior today, and continue to look the other way as worthwhile
contributing members leave to saner and freedom-rich pastures, sooner or
later there will be no-one to stand up for you, when you have displeased
Big Brother Gilmore.
And most likely it will start with returning attacks that he started (as
proven by the threads linked above). Of course, it’s perfectly
acceptable when Benito Gilmore does it.
But I think that the argument above is self-evident (just
as all men are created equal, even if Dan believes that some are more equal than
others). I don’t think I need to belabor the point. So let’s move
on to Comrade Gilmore’s other points, shall we?
I also intend to file a copyright infringement complaint against his
violation of reposting copyrighted material.
That, and a libel suit against him.
Mordeth is what a socialist and nazi is all about.
I never knew ‘MordEth’ was such an anti-semite.
And I’m not even Jewish.
He must really hate Jews given his recent internet activities and
such.
I challenge Dan to cite one iota of concrete evidence to prove that this
is so. How on Earth does arguing with someone who is not Jewish make one
anti-Semitic? I spoke to one of my web clients (who also happens to be a
friend, in addition to being Jewish), and informed him of my newfound
anti-Semitism, and he laughed and said he was already ‘aware that I hated
him’, then asked me to wrap up a few more projects for him. Having done
this, it’s time to delived the promised rebuttal of Dan’s latest crop of
delusional claims.
Seriously, we’re both impressed by the ridiculousness of your claims,
Dan. But of course, since a significant percentage of our income comes
from understanding and working with the internet, I suppose I can see how
your knowledge and experience is inferior to mine. I really wonder how
you can have copyright on your material without any sort of copyright
notice, especially considering that since it is a public internet message
board, you do not own the copyright to anything on there; by posting you
make your words public domain. And libel? Seriously?
How is it libel to quote you verbatim? The threads above aren’t even
excerpts of your words; I have preserved the threads
exactly as they appeared on the Victrola board.
Exactly. In other words, I am reporting what you said.
Verbatim.
I will not tolerate this crap from anyone.
But from what I have seen, you’ll dish it out for as long as it appears
to you that you might have some chance of winning. Then you whine about
how you’re going to take your ball and go home, silencing all of your
critics with your fascist behavior.
As long as my IP(s) are blocked on the Victrola board, it is readily
apparent that this is so.
Phil O. contributes, “If someone gets banned, I can assure you it is
for a good reason.”
And it all depends on your definition of a good reason. If
your definition of a good reason is “because Dan cannot win an
argument against them, and feels threatened that they shatter the façade
he wears the majority of the time on the board”, then yes, I believe this
is true. And who knows, maybe some day when you disagree with Dan, maybe
you’ll get to find out for yourself how that goes, Phil.
Phil goes on to say, “Although his commentary tends to be more slanted
to the right than some of you like, Dan is not a nazi, facist, or
racist.”
At this point I really wonder if Phil has read any of my supporting
arguments, because not only have I documented his racist and bigoted
political attacks in basically every thread reposted here, I have also documented
at least six years of hate-speak on this link. And it
is Dan. He has not denied it. [Edit on 11/26/2008: Actually, now Dan has denied it, but evidence suggests
that this denial is actually untrue.]
Perhaps some of you think that this is acceptable behavior, in return
for Dan ‘giving you’ the Victrola board. I think this is a morally
bankrupt argument, but if you really think that way, you have to live
with yourself; I do not.
gramophoneshane has some excellent points, and I’m sure that he’s next
against the wall when the Gilmore Ban Squad comes. And based on his
words, he sees it coming.
But enough of that, let’s go back to debunking what Dan has to say.
Because everything that Dan has to say is true and based on reality,
right? Do not doubt the word of Big
Brother Gilmore.
You see, it's damned if I do and damned if I don't. I get abuse for
using my admin powers and I get abuse for not using it.
Once again, Dan does not seem to realize that Dan is getting abuse
because he instigates distasteful topics on the basis of hate, racism,
and bigotry, and then, when he realizes that his position is untenable,
he resorts to threats, insulting behavior, and ultimately, locking the
topic and/or deleting it. It must be nice to abuse your power in such a
manner, Benito Gilmore. But despite this, you’re not a fascist. When
you cause your critics to disappear because they have the gall to
criticize you, you’re not a fascist. When you make ridiculous,
acrimonious and hateful claims and attacks on people because they’ve
managed to show the monster behind your masque, it’s all morally
acceptable, right? Because the Victrola board is not intended solely for
talking about phonographs, it’s also Dan Gilmore’s pulpit in the Church
of Latter Day Hate-Speak.
Woe betide anyone who should stand up against this.
Woe betide anyone who should stand up to defend the principles on which
the United States of America was founded.
That means that I have only one choice and that is to exercise my
editorial policy and admin powers without fail and at every opportunity
that I or any of the Global Moderators deem necessary.
There will be no more disorder or conflict.
Read as: “Expect more fascism. If you disagree with me, you will be
censored, and if you persist, I will ban you like I banned MordEth.”
If I see something that I think is inappropriate, disruptive, mean
spirited, slanderous, libelous or beyond the limits of good taste and
orderly conduct, I will delete it, edit it or move it without
discussion and without appeal. The Global Moderators are also entitled
to make the same editorial decisions.
We can’t have it both ways. Since we have had a number of ‘lurkers’
who only post when they can make a troll of themselves and number of
people who are oversensitive who get offended at the mention of a flea,
star or any imaginable thing that could be taken the wrong way, I’m
going to enforce editorial scrutiny to everything equally.
Translation: “As long as I am not the one responsible for the
unacceptable behavior, it will be promptly expunged. However, since I
(and the people who I feel worthy of being my goons) have the ability to
do whatever we want with your content, we will continue to behave in a
fascist manner, and only I am exempt.”
Let’s see how total control over everything works for a
while.
Note: Despite saying this, Dan is not admitting that he is a fascist or
is in any way totalitarian. Oh. Wait. Yes, he did.
I think that everything that I have said, cited, and demonstrated proves
my case behind a shadow of a doubt: Dan is only a civil human being when
it suits him, and when he is content to let slip the charade, he can be a
deeply hateful, racist and bigoted person. His words prove this.
Whether you want to ignore that is your business, but if you continue to
put up with this type of behavior from Dan, you should know full well
that you are tacitly stating that you approve of Dan’s message, and I’d
like to think better of most of the people who frequent the Victrola
board.
When you’re next, don’t say that I did not warn you, or that I did not
speak up to combat the hateful fascist racism and bigotry that
characterize Dan Gilmore.
If I were intent on trashing the board, it would no longer be online
now.
Want to complain about what I have said here, or have comments you wish
to share? You may click here to
e-mail me or click here to complain
to the server admin. I promise not to quote any e-mail sent to me
without permission, unless you opt to send hateful rantings. In which
case, I reserve the right to quote you verbatim.
Update #5: Dan is a criminal in NC!?
It’s ironic what you can find with a bit of Google-searching:
Dan
posts, “And I forgot to mention this one - In North Carolina, do you
realize that making threats portending legal action is a possible felony?
Even if you do it over the internet?”
This segues nicely into quoting Dan’s thread about how he was justified
in banning me, and when he was kind enough to link everyone and spam
everyone into coming here. Note that he since edited the link out, but I
figure that since you are already here, I really don’t need to post the
initial version.
Neophone and gramophoneshane both have some nice points, and I thank
them for coming to my defense; I was amazed at how many good Party
members Dan seems to have. Hopefully they don’t share his racist views;
I’d like to think that the hobby attracts better people than this. Stay
tuned; I’ll post more commentary on Dan’s grasp of the law in a bit.
Is it just me, or does the
situation with Garret in August seem remarkably similar?
Update #6: The Daily Show’s Dan Gilmore
episode
Someone please link The
Daily Show (Thursday, 13 November, 2008) for Dan and make him watch
it. They literally made an entire show about the fear-mongering hateful
insanity that he spews, and I truly think that he should watch it. Maybe
some degree of sanity will assert itself. Or perhaps someone needs to
get him a little teddy bear, some hot chocolate with marshmallows and
block Fox News on his TV and computer. Also, apparently Dr. Seuss wrote
a book about him, “Obama Won & Daniel Gilmore Bought a Gun”.
If Dan really believes the things that he is posting in “How
to win???”, it’s no wonder all of his pre-election assertions were
wrong. Sadly, he disappeared them before Google cached them, and I did
not save that thread like I did the ones above. Suffice it to say that
he assured all that he “guaranteed McCain would win.” We all saw how
true that prediction turned out to be.
By the way, not a single of Dan’s threats has come to pass; maybe he’s
still finding a lawyer delusional enough to think he has a case, or
perhaps one that’ll accept what he shovels as payment, while he’s working
as a stableboy.
Update #7: Dan whines to my ISP and threatens
to sue them also
So, on Monday (17 November, 2008) the Communist Collective of
MordEthland™ was contacted by their great
and benevolent internet-providing overlords, with the information that
one Daniel Gilmore had attempted to file a complaint, but (due to their
safe harbor status) they are not required to pursue a takedown action
against me. Since my server admin
has yet to hear anything, so I can only guess that Dan has limited his
attacks against free speech to attempts at having me and/or the server
taken off the internet, thus demonstrating that Dan is a
<sarcasm>virtuous champion of the Bill
of Rights and personal freedoms, and not at all a fascist
hate-monger</sarcasm>. Way to prove my points, Dan. Please
continue to try to silence me, with wanton disregard for the law.
Freedoms are wonderful things if they let you do whatever you want, but
not others, right?
It’s been an interesting 7 days; I had the unexpected experience of
conversing with someone who has been inside the Gilmore residence, and
who has seen the largely nonexistent Gilmore phonograph collection (which
may explain why he was wanting to “redistribute
the wealth” in hopes that he might get more machines and records from
me. I heard first-hand just how much of the person Dan claims to be is
really just a sham.
If nothing else, he’s kept his ridiculous political rantings to himself
for a week for the most part (apart from nonsense about how Obama bought
the election, because there’s no way that McCain could be responsible for
losing the election as a result of his shortcomings and ludicrously
negative campaign), because we all know Dan
makes up stuff like the great story about how he was personally attacked
by a fictitious Obama supporter. (But hey, if you’re a paranoid
schizophrenic, then the world really is out to get you personally. If
this is the case, Dan, please seek psychiatric help.)
I’m curious if anyone has realized that all of Dan’s hate-speak is in
violation of ProBoards’ Terms
of Service. See the bits about ‘hate’ and
‘racism’. With a
little bit of time on Google, there are plenty of results to be
found. A lot of the threads that Dan has a way of starting, getting
people worked up about, and then disappearing (through his amazing ‘coding’ skills)
are still archived in Google’s cache. Imagine that.
If you have content you find useful on the Old Time Victrola Fascist
Message Board, you may want to consider using the Save As feature in your
browser (Firefox works great for
this; the pages linked above were captured with its “Web page, complete”
option for Save As). While I have not decided to report him (at least
until he actually manages to come after me in some real way, shape or
form, I’m sure there are other people that he has wronged who have every
reason to be more vindictive than I am, and it’s not like it is hard to
find the link to
report him.
You set the tone of a forum from the top, and when the owner of a board
behaves in the manner that Dan does, it’s not surprising to see the
number of hateful, off-topic jabs that I have seen on Dan’s board. It’s
ridiculously easy to start a new board, and if they finally pull the plug
on Dan, I’d be glad to provide you all with a far more utopian forum for
phonograph-related discourse that actually values decency and civility,
moderated by people who actually have a vested interest in the hobby and
in helping others. In the meantime, you can find me on the Edison board or you may
e-mail me. I welcome any
questions you might have, and will do my best to answer them, and/or
assist you.
It’s amazing how little moderation you need when you don’t keep adding
vitriol to the pot. If they pull the plug, don’t say I didn’t warn
you.
Until further update(s), let me close with the signature that precipitated
the ban:
“He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even
his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes
a precedent that will reach to himself.”
— Thomas
Paine
